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Dasavathaaram Explained Logically

Posted on: June 17, 2008

Too many doubts about correlation of the movie, Chaos theory and Butterfly Effect have come into Picture….!!!

The movie clearly states about Chaos Theory and Butterfly Effect [Kamal says it in his Speech in the Movie ]

The concept of “CHAOS THEORY” and “BUTTERFLY EFFECT”, by itself is a complex concept, which mainly highlights the happening of huge unimaginable things because of least probable things…!!!!

Dasa although deals with these concept, but does not necessarily confuse anyone with it,,,, As i said earlier, its mainly “YOU”… that plays a factor in how the movie gets along with “YOU”.

You have got to be Case 1 or Case 2 as i have said earlier in this entry,,, No use being Half Baked…..!!!!

To just brief about these Concepts,

Q: What is Chaotic System ?
A: Basically a chaotic system is one wherein long term predictions are impossible.Like for example,if I push a car, I know that it is going to move and it will continue to do so if I go on pushing it on and on.However,in a chaotic system,this situation cannot be predicted over a long period of time.
Weather for example is a chaotic system.No matter how good your instruments are,you simply cannot predict the weather with 100% accuracy over a long term basis and forecast it.

Q: What is the Butterfly Effect ?
A: It is the most important component of a chaotic system.Basically,small perturbations results in amplifications which completely destroys the original nature of the system and makes prediction impossible.
If a butterfly flaps its wings in Africa,it could result in a cyclone in USA.(Mark the word COULD).A highly dumbed down explanation of the butterfly effect is in the film Anniyan,where Vikram’s sister dies because a liquor shop owner sells liquor on a dry day.

Q: OK, how does Dasa incorporate it ?
A: In essence,Dasa talks about 8 characters who are inconsequential as such,but are integrated in a larger picture.Without Bush,the plane would have been called back.Without Shinghen, Govind would be dead.Without the tsunami,the world would have been destroyed.Even Krishnaveni Patti plays a very important role.If she had not put the vial in the idol,maybe Govind would have recovered it then and there and a powerful weapon would have been unleashed.The very fact that it went into the idol meant that it was being accelerated to its destiny.Without Kaifulla Khan, Govind would have never escaped;the list simply goes on.

Q:OK,so does the film talk about theism or atheism?
A:Neither.It talks about how humans drive the destiny of the world.

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The movie does Show ” A Butterfly ” flying accross the screen after the Tsunami Attcck, clearly indicating that the Tsunami is an Outcome of ” The Butterfly effect “.

ALSOOOOOOO……..


I said that the butterfly COULD cause a hurricane.That’s a huge probability. Would be a negligible probability. NOT a huge one. if that were true, we would have cyclones on an hourly basis as butterflies keep flitting all over Africa and u don’t have so many cyclones to account for a HUGE probability.
Chaos,relativity and quantum mechanics are so damn weird that you will think I am talking metaphysics and pseudoscience.

Like for example,according to quantum mechanics,there is a finite probability that you will fall right through a solid chair.And it is a PROBABILITY.
Even 10 to the power -26 is finite 🙂 .

But yes, Quantum Mechanics does allow for weird situations.


THE CONNECTION !!!!!

Guys check this link for a clear and complete explanation

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Butterfly_effect

In the above links u can see that butterfly’s wings might create tiny changes in the atmosphere that may ultimately alter the path of a tornado or delay, accelerate or even prevent the occurrence of a tornado in a certain location..

So in dasavatharam that idol thrown into sea in 12th century is the cause for tsunami…. so everything is interlinked .The wiki entry also says that chaos could play an important role in plate techtonics. Which means even the 12th century incident is connected.

The 1st scene is perfectly connected to the climax, remember what Kamal says in the 1st scene, that he will not say “Om Nama Shivaya” , but Asin tells him to chant it , but still Kamal refuses , ( in this kamal in his story tries to tell that ) Nambi believes in his god more than anything, but Asin feels “Its ok if we change the god or chant other god’s name, its life thats most important.” Now if u see the climax its JUST OPPOSITE…. Kamal doesn’t believe in god much and values lives of people the most…. but Asin deeply believes in god and that too this dialogue comes when both Asin and Kamal’s hand is on the god which came from the sea , and it also means that they are getting united from the place they departed hundreds of years back ( Kamal and Asin).The connection between the 1st scene and the climax in the movie shows the generation circle combined with supernatural powers of GOD and destiny…..!!!

If you watch it closely u can also find another actor who has done double action other than Asin and Kamal.
Asin’s father Sahasranamam [12th Century], in the beginning he says to Nambi “Panchatchira manthirathai sollitu vaango mappillai” and at the End [After tsunami] he says “Avar enna jathiyo inga vaanga paati “.
Another Eg. of Chaos Theory and circle of life.

JUST IMAGINE THE CHAOS THEORY IN A TAMIL FILM ??
WILL ANYONE HAVE THE GUTS TO HANDLE THIS KIND OF A SUBJECT IN A TAMIL FILM?

ONLY KAMAL HAS THE GUTS…. U ROCK!!

FURTHER————-


Nambi explanation

Okay, this is slightly outside the chaotic system driving the film as a whole.From what I could gather he says that this story is about ideologies like God,the madness surrounding such ideologies and decides to tell the story of the Shaivite-Vaishnavite conflict to show how people go crazy in the name of God as an example.

As a loose end,it gets tied up in the end,when the Ranganathar idol is thrown out of the sea due to the tsunami which highlights the cyclic nature of life.Actually the Nambi character highlights both Chaos and Karma which I explained.That is the brilliance of this film,there is so much to see and understand.

Another explanation(and this is slightly far fetched— as explained earlier) is that Govind is in fact the reincaranation of Nambi. As Nambi he couldn’t protect God and died in the name of God.In order to fulfill his Karma,he is reincarnated as Govind Ramasamy who ultimately saves the world from destruction.The idol in the end somewhat hints to this theory; his story began with the idol and it ends with the idol.
As far as the connection with Nambi character and events in 12th Century goes…
The connection is based on the “Butterfly effect “.

When Govind and Andal goes to the bury the idol in the sands, Andal will stumble on a particular stone couple of times…This is the same stone as the one from 12th Century hen Kothai rips her Thaali and flings it at Kulothunga Chozan…it will end up hanging on the stone. So, the implied message here is Andal is Kothai reborn in the 21s century.
During the encounter with Santhana Bharathi in the sand quarry, it is repeat of the incident from 12th century. Instead of Kulothunga Chozhan, it is the Sand Mafia which tries to inflict damage on the land.
This movie is a brilliant juxtaposition of independent characters whose paths cross, if only briefly, which is stunning example of Chaos Theory.

The idol that is drowned in the sea along with Rangarajan in 12th century by Chozha king results in a fault being developed at the bottom of the ocean and creates tremors more than 800 years later. These tremors result in the Tsunami. This again is a classic case of Butterfly Effect wherein a seemingly inconcsequential event (the drowing of the idol) saves Tamil Nadu from being wiped out off the face of the earth.

But actually kamal has not left anything for our imagination… Explanation struck the right chord, Kamal does tell to Asin in a dialogue that idol which gets sunken back then gets struck between the tectonic plates under the sea and causes tsunami…
Many people missed this dialogue i guess. Kamal’s accent was so very perfect Tamil, that many people missed it…. Being perfect Is a Problem by Itself !!!🙂

Although the explanation is a least possible theory, that is what “Chaos Theory” And “Butterfly Effect” are all about.
Its not just the statue that caused the tsunami, but it just started a large chain of effects which kept multiplying exponentially and finally lead to it after 800 years….!!
Why just say this concept is perfectly illogical… it is possible… thats what i have been explaining all the while !!!

The story line is that things going wrong are made to be right which involves many people and countries knowingly or unknowingly.

Knowingly:

-Bush, Manmohan Singh, Govindh, Fletcher, Balaram Naidu, Mallika Sherawath.

Unknowingly:

-Nambi’s drowning to death with the heavy statue causes simple changes to the seabed that causes a devastating tsunami 800 years later [Acc. to Chaos theor it is possible…. although it is least probable… It is possible.. so nothing TOTALLY WRONG About it ]
-Poovaragan(actually saved kamal unknowingly—when poovaragan enters kamal and asin were caught by those manal kollayargal.There poovaragan distracts the gang helping kamal to escape),
– Avatar Singh(gave way to Fletcher to escape in the airport unknowingly),
– Japanese(saved govind from fletcher,he knows he is saving but he doesnt know about the play and was there only for revenge),
– Kallifulla and family(saved govind unknowingly)……..
-Vincent is a dalit leader of a lower caste( the so called ) but saved an Iyengar Girl ……and at the end becomes the con of the Iyengar Paati !!
– If Shingen Narahashi’s sister was not killed, Fletcher could have killed govind and used the virus for wrong purpose..

This is based on Chaos Theory..!!!!!

It is marvellous that THALAIVAR Kamal has used such a device in Abhoorva Saghodhararghal, way back in 1989. To kill Delhi Ganesh, for those of you who do not remember… yet another Eg. of Chaos Theory And butterfly Effect !

The plot concept of Dasavadhaaram is logically explained by a machine used by Him in His own screenplay back then too, before 20 Years!! Be it a coincidence, or He possibly had that in mind as an inspiration, it amazes me!!

14 Responses to "Dasavathaaram Explained Logically"

Amazed to read the scripts above. I am not a reader of these unimaginable stuffs, but am impressed to know kamal’s interest over a big audience. Keep the good work, buddy.

Its simply amazing!!!
Only people who have basic understanding of science(chaos theory) and avatars of Krishna will appreciate this film.
You are able to precisely syntheise and correlate the things
Nice piece of work.Kudos to you!!
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If Kamal reads your article.. he will really feel proud and happy as well.. good dilip!

good work dilip really gr8 . nice piece of work from u

Really superb… when i saw the movie, i felt like, it was so wonder, so much of work have been done for screen play, facial changes, character creation, link between those characters etc… but whn i read the article, really it was amazing… thats KAMAL… proud to be KAMAL’s fan & Tamilian…🙂

Tell me any one film in this world on which u cant give an explanation like this.
Those who knows abt Chaos theory can only laugh at this explanation.
Pls have a read abt the Chaos theory in detail. Dont use Wikipedia,its not a reliable source. Anybody can edit it.
Secondly,why should a movie goer be worried abt all these things. He could have made 10 good films with this amount than trying to be an intellectual. Can u tell me any of the kamal films got the award for best film or direction?????
Kamal is good when competition is rajni ajith or vijay. And now this all work of making a stupid work is unbelievable. Yesterday some another idiot posted that all the roles r avatars of Lord Krishna.
Example:Vincent poovaraghan is krishna. You know why? Both r black.
Example2:Kalifulla khan is Vamana because of height and Fletcher is Parasuram it seems. Pls stop this stupidity. You can never find a story which cannot be a related to Mahabharatha and Ramayana.

As you people r all kamal fans, best thing u can do is admit that it was a bad film and unfortunately i have not seen much good films in the last 15 yrs.
They had very talented directors in Balachander,Balu Mahendra and Bharati raja. They all r out of the field now. Only those hype-Shankars and Sex-Selvaraghavans r there.

Really a good work man! It would help the people to understand the movie better.

Very nice and “Perfect” review.

So what is the necessity and logic behind him doing all ten roles other than satisfying his ego ? dont get me wrong, I have liked a lot of Kamal movies. Even though I liked and understood the story and screenplay of dasavatharam, Overdose of Kamal and his make up, simply killed it. I was left with indigestion at the end of the movie.

so what’s the big deal if someone does 10 roles? not sure why everyone looks so closely at Kamal’s than anyone. Maybe everyone wants to prove that they are smarter than him. Wait for KullaSelan…it will be down there…but everyone will sure think its great like Sivaji (where Muslims are shown as very bad people) or Chandramukhi(the guy will read a philosophical book but hang around with friend’s wife).

hey BEn, you got to understand or try to understand…if you can’t go watch Kuruvi….

Chaos Theory is there in all movies and in every one’s life, which is known to all. Absolutely there is no any need for explaining Chaos Theory to the people. The background talk by Kamal in the movie Dasavatharam is not at all necessary. His way of talking is also not clear. Mixed reveiws came becoz of that background talk only and the same also reduces the dignity of the movie.

Agree with you Sathia Moorthy. No need to explain CHaos theory – you should watch Run Lola Run. That is an awesome movie. and there was no need for a song called “Ulaga nayaganae”, completely out of place. We expect Kamal to make movies like Devar Magan and Nayagan, not like this.

Really an excellent explaination for the movie… Hats off to you!! For the first time i am hearing these concepts of Chaos Theory and Butterfly Theory which is taught beautifully with your help. Thanks for that. Anyway, kamal is giant already. But now i am praising him as a scietifical & theoretical king in our Tamil Film industry. We are very proud to have such a man with us. Long live Kamal Haasan.

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